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It's impossible to describe John Novello in a few simple phrases.
Let's just say the man knows his way around a keyboard. Listeners
who have been floored by his work in the prog/jazz/rock/fusion/fun
trio Niacin know his prowess. A warm, enthusiastic man, Novello graciously
gave ProgSheet his time and attention for a pip of an interview! Enjoy!
PS:
I know you've told it before, but please tell me how you came to meet
Chick Corea.
JN: Jay Lewis, a drummer that was in one of my first bands
in my home town Erie, PA turned me onto a record of Chick's way back
in the early 70's. Needless to say I flipped. I think it was called
ARC featuring Chick Corea/David Holland/Barry Altschul. Man
was it a scorcher. I wrote to him via his management that was on the
back of the record and to my surprise, he responded. We sort of became
pen pals until I moved to Boston in 1973 at which time I finally met
him there at a sound check during his Music Magic Band Tour. He eventually
moved to LA as did I in 1978 and we became good friends. Eventually
I began helping him program his new Synclavier synthesizer and later
he wrote the forward to my instruction manual "The Contemporary Keyboardist."
We have been friends ever since and have worked together on many occasions.
He is a real genius, a total class act for sure and an important mentor
of mine. One of the most prolific cats I ever met! Total musical integrity!
PS: What was the most valuable lesson you learned from Chick?
JN: Artistic integrity, prolificness, effortless playing, passion
and how to communicate to one's audiences even though blowing complex
shit. I also learned "the spirit of play" meaning that when one is
playing music it's supposed to be fun and inspirational; not serious
and stuffy etc. I noticed that he always seemed to be having a blast
when he played and this always communicated to audiences brilliantly
and effortlessly! Having observed this in his playing, I tried to
emulate it and it really helped me. I then began noticing this attribute
in other great players and so this was an important lesson because
ultimately, music is spirit communication, meaning communication between
spiritual beings. It isn't really about the notes and style and form.
These are a given and should be the best as possible of course, but
in the end, what is the artist trying to communicate and is this communication
honest and unshackled and free to soar, or is it serious and fear
based and tentative? This is the correct importance.
PS: What first attracted you to the sound of the Hammond?
JN: Sorry to be silly here, but what attracted me was
it's sound! It's a primordial beast challenging one to control it,
and if one is successful, it's award is the awakening of one's own
primordial beast - one's soul - YOU! The collision of all these magnetic
sound waves generated from it's 91 tone wheel generator is not only
endless but also simply "raw & organic!" The way I as a spirit "felt"
deep inside seemed to be more easily expressed on the Hammond B3 than
any other instrument. That said I now can express myself on any keyboard
but that only came with a lot of experience and maturity. My first
love is still the Hammond for sure and I was inspired by cats like
Jimmy Smith, Keith Emerson, Bryan Auger, Mark Stein, Felix Caviliere,
Peter Robinson, Tony Banks, Rick Wakeman, Jon Lord, Gary Peterson,
Stevie Winwood, Groove Holmes, Jan Hammer and many more. I can still
in fact get off just holding a chord and listening to the leslie speakers
fire up from slow to fast and back to slow or grabbing those sensuous
drawbars, or do a screaming glissando or just hold a high note and
let the monster scream and that therein lies one of the secrets of
playing and composing music - the sound is God and it only really
communicates when it emotionally touches your soul - YOU - and YOU
transfer that to your audiences! I believe all great artists are simply
channeling their uniqueness (All beings are unique and special in
my opinion) to their audiences through their art. This only occurs
though when the artist is honestly in touch with his essence, HIS
communication. Playing for any other reasons - to be famous, get paid,
showing off or whatever - well... these are all ok but only harmonics
of the true reason which is the artist having the courage and responsibility
to fully express himself and his uniqueness through his particular
art. This, in my opinion, actually applies not only to the performance
arts but to anything - athletics, public speaking, juggling, acting,
a chemist... anything! Well maybe not politicians and psychiatrists!
:-)
PS:
How have your spiritual discoveries effected your music?
JN: Since I was nine years old I was always interested in anything
that increased my overall awareness and perceptions as to me the more
aware one is of who he is in relation to others and the physical universe,
then the more positive and productive he can be. I first studied Catholicism
up until about age 17, and then I experimented with drugs which, thank
God, I quickly discovered was the wrong direction. Then I read many
many books about spiritualism and philosophy and eventually was thoroughly
impressed by the research and writings of L. Ron Hubbard. He was the
only one that not only made sense but that actually had a paradigm
that one could study and apply to one's life. I've been using his
concepts quite successfully now for over 30 years and if I had to
sum them up I'd say his writings help a person fully get in communication
with himself ( I know that may sound simplistic but most are not in
communication with themselves at all) so he knows his goals and purposes
and has the courage to go after them. Most people are so distracted
with life's trials and tribulations - making a living, paying bills
and getting along with others - that their own dreams get thwarted
and when that happens you get one unhappy spirit. If a person is unhappy
down deep with himself then how the hell can he add anything to society?
How can he help others? Impossible! If a person has no self love and
respect he'll never get others to respect him and he'll never be able
to contribute much of anything to anybody. This becomes crucial for
a performing artist because to really blow (perform at your peak)
one has to be at one with one's self so all of his energy can be transferred
to the listener whether live or on a CD.
In one of Hubbard's writings he discusses that the most important
thing to rehabilitate in a person is not necessarily his actual abilities
but his willingness to demonstrate his abilities! The key word
here is willingness! Once a person is fully willing to "blow" without
any fears or reservations, he has arrived because from that moment
on, he will eventually come into his own! Now the key is how does
one rehab one's willingness to demonstrate his abilities? Well that's
why I like Hubbard's philosophy because he researched and developed
an organized approach on how to attain this, no different than studying,
say, the martial arts and going up the belt system until one is a
black belt and has mastered the art of self defense. If Hubbard's
concepts are applied honestly and correctly, it is the black belt
of spiritual studies in my opinion. It's not a belief system; it's
an applied religious philosophy and it can raise anybody's awareness
of himself, others and the environment and after all... what is a
person engaged in all day long anyway? Answer - himself, others and
the environment and the successful interaction of all three. Another
ability I developed using Hubbard's techniques was the ability to
very quickly focus all of my attention and intention to the task as
hand. This in regular terms is of course simply called concentration
and attention span. But this is easier said than done, and to do any
skilled action extremely well, one has to totally be there and be
able to stay there while doing the skilled action. Some have called
this "being in the zone!" What it means is that one's attention is
so focused that the skilled action appears to be effortless! To play
Niacin material, all three of us have to be and stay in the zone for
sure!!!
PS: You've played with quite a few musicians. What is unique about
the vibe you have with Billy & Dennis in Niacin?
JN: Well I have experienced this "vibe" with others as well
and what I think it is when musicians click together is is that they
really and truly love the music and are fully willing to thus let
go and just play with no considerations! Each of us in Niacin are
accomplished enough on our individual instruments that we can focus
on the spirit comm and that's what creates the magic!
PS: As the three of you have more & more time under your belts
playing together, have different aspects or possibilities come to
light or has the dynamic remained unchanged?
JN: Well.... the chemistry was there from the beginning but
as we have been writing and performing over the years, we have evolved
into an entity where the whole is greater than the sums of its parts
for sure - a total synergism. To me that's what any good group has
to become - a synergism! The Beatles did, Led Zeppelin, The Cream,
Return To Forever, Weather Report, Tower of Power, Vanilla Fudge,
Hendrix, Chicago, Traffic, Oscar Peterson Trio, Gonzalo Rubalcaba
Quartet, ELP, Quatermass etc. These bands all became greater than
themselves and that = magic for everybody! But I have noticed that
on our last two CDs, Time Crunch and Organik, we are
raising the bar and I really like that. Everybody is on 10 but it's
still groovin' and that's important. It has to groove, to have a pocket
or the notes become stupid!
PS: Is it ever difficult to remain melodic while playing at 300
MPH?
JN: Not really because if you're playing music from the right
viewpoint, meaning the viewpoint of passion and artistic integrity
and wanting to share that passion and integrity with the listeners
as mentioned above, then it all works out. If, however, one is playing
out of fear, jealousy, uncertainty, dishonesty, tentativeness, condescension,
ego only gratification etc, then if you have the chops, the tendency
is to use only them and the result can become a "wank fest" of notes
that don't do anything for anybody, even other musicians! It doesn't
groove in other words. Rhythm is a vibration and that vibration is
what oscillates and connects or resonates with the spirit and gets
the spirit into present time. I think the reason for this was mentioned
above in that when music has a lower frequency vibration - less spiritual
- it doesn't uplift. And when that's the case, why bother in the first
place?! It would be better to go get laid or something and hopefully
at least mean that! Music to me should always be a spiritual communication;
otherwise notes for notes sake are useless!
PS: Niacin has done some tasty covers - King Kong, Red,
& Blue Wind to name a few. How is it decided which outside
songs get the Niacin touch?
JN: Basically all three of us have extremely eclectic musical
backgrounds. We can get off playing complex out jazz or a simple three
chord rock tune. At sound checks we thus always jam on old tunes that
we all know and love and when one of these jams seems to have some
magic, then we consider that as a possible cover. We love covering
and reviving old tunes. I mean Niacin basically is a retro progressive
jazz rock fusion project so why not.
PS: "Barbarian @ The Gate" is an exceptionally challenging piece
- was that a song that was worked on & recorded in sections, or played
straight through?
JN: Yikes! You are correct - a very difficult piece for sure!
It was written in sections and carefully crafted as a composition
as a dedication vibe to RTF (Return To Forever) but then we went for
it performance wise and got a good magical take and only afterwards
corrected a few clams! We always go for magic as the main goal. The
notes are always secondary otherwise the synergy never takes place.
That's one of the tunes from the new CD that we'll be playing live.
For me that tune is a keyboard aerobic workout and I have to be totally
relaxed or otherwise I'll cramp up! Niacin is quite a challenging
band to play in and therein is why I think all of us love it. We always
try to push the envelope without blowing the musicality and losing
our fans. Our fans expect us to go for it but still make music!
PS:
Why is Niacin a three piece? What is it about a guitar or a horn that
would not work in the band on a regular basis?
JN: I guess a) because Billy and I conceived of the band originally
as a trio in this format and b) the trio format allows each of us
to be on 10. Adding anything else is not only unnecessary but tends
to take space away from one of us. It's not that we couldn't create
some space for these other instruments. It's just that we already
have done that in other projects and the trio is a fun and a challenging
entity and seems to bring out the best of all of us. That's why on
the last few CD's I began adding more piano, rhodes and synth colors.
My other project, The John Novello Band is a quintet and has a percussionist
and a sax player but it's intended to be that way and so it works!
PS: On a day that you know you will be performing live, what do
you do that day to prepare for the performance?
JN: Well if I don't know the material by the day of the gig,
then in this muscle band, I'd be screwed! So actually besides being
well fed and rested, I don't do much of anything but clear my space
of all distractions and totally focus on being on 10 physically, mentally
& spiritually and then the rest just happens. What I like about the
Niacin is that when we hit the stage and the music starts, it's bigger
than all three of us and we seem to be swept to a higher plane. But
you have to be prepared to go there, to go along for the ride, because
if you tense up physically or mentally , then your frequency lowers
and reentry occurs and the audience would not like that. They want
to watch us take off! I remember one night in Japan, we were all totally
fried! Hardly any sleep etc. Backstage, we were a pathetic looking
bunch of cats. I was wondering how we would play but holy shit! We
hit the stage and it seemed that our sleep deprivation actually became
a plus as all three of us instantly forgot our worldly bodies and
problems and moved to that higher plane and just burned. After the
show we all collapsed due to the expenditure of unrestricted energy
out put. That's what Niacin actually is - unrestricted music and energy
out put!
PS: Take me behind the scenes on a favorite number of mine - how
did Journey To Nowhere come together? What was the inspiration?
JN: That by the way is one of my favorite compositions and
was recorded on my CD Threshold on Holographic Records with
the John Novello Band. Conceptually when I write, I always have an
overall concept in mind and this time what I wanted to rebel against
was life's main theme - traveling away and coming home etc etc etc.
I was thinking that just going somewhere and never returning and doing
this endlessly would be refreshing and then it dawned on me that if
one continually did this, this is really like going "nowhere." Hence,
Journey To Nowhere! With that paradigm in mind, I then wrote
a "through-composed" piece that started somewhere and then somewhere
else etc and never returned to restate (home) the original theme.
Usually this is a no no in music composition as "they" say that the
listener likes the resolution of going back home, to a familiar theme
like an AABACAABA type format. I figured, fuck that! We have enough
of that in most all music and in our lives. So this tune's format
is ABCD - 4 separate sections. Maybe I thought to myself the listener
would find it refreshing to go on a journey to nowhere. I've tried
to apply this concept in my life occasionally and wake up and go nowhere
all day and it in fact this is quite refreshing to do occasionally
as it disconnects one from patterns which can cause staleness of thought
and direction. Now whether I was successful, communicating this in
the recording, you tell me; but at least I went nowhere which was
the goal!
PS: What is the single biggest mistake a musician looking to secure
a record deal makes?
JN: Trying to get a record deal! The attention should
be on musical integrity and developing enough expertise to express
that musical integrity with no concern for success or for that matter
failure. ( Immature artists think that the goal is getting a record
deal. That's a falsity for sure! ) This dichotomy - success and failure
- actually truthfully doesn't interest me at all anymore. It is a
trap! If you validate them, then what happens when you "succeed",
that goes to your ego head and it lowers your frequency; if you fail
it still goes to your head and self doubt and fear and other lower
frequency emotions enter into your space and again your frequency
lowers. Besides all a record "deal" is is an agreement that some company
will be your partner and share in some of the expenses of manufacturing
and distributing and promoting your CD and of course take a
bulk of your profits if any. The problem lies in the word YOUR, as
most record companies are pretty much "bottom lining" their business
operations, meaning they're only doing what they do for the money.
This started about 20 years when corporate America saw they could
make a lot of money signing only artists who could sell mega millions
of records. Before that, record companies had real A & R departments
whose job was to discover real talented artists, sign them and develop
them and their repertoire sort of like in baseball when they sign
players to their minor leagues and then, when they're ready, bring
them up to the majors. So at one time, there really was a focus on
uniqueness and talent etc. Now it seems to have shifted ONLY to sales
stats. This of course has ruined the market. Take a scan of today's
top 100 in any category and compare it to say 1969! Wow... what a
difference. Every band and artist in the top 100 then was unique and
unbelievably talented. Nowadays, the uniqueness is gone in general
(there are of course great artists but they are the exceptions whereas
earlier they were the rule ) and the talent is questionable in many
cases. So the point here: at any time your intention should be developing
your craft and your music and your uniqueness and your message, and
the rest will follow in due time. Today this is even more critical
because if you try to develop what record companies want, which is
just pure clone music for money making reasons only... then.... well
I'm afraid you have lost your way and will produce nothing but mediocrity
at best! Nowadays cats who can't even play in time or sing in tune
are making hit records! Yikes! If you went to an NBA Basketball game
and you watched players who didn't have their basics together like
dribbling and shooting what would you think? You'd think like hey,
these guys suck! They can't even play. How did they make it into the
pros? Same in the music industry.
If real artistic talent was sought after and then developed and promoted,
we'd have a much more healthier market in my opinion as we did in
the 60's and earlier 70's. And no for those of you who think I'm just
being old fashioned or have a chip on my shoulder, that's not the
case. I would just like to turn on the radio and be amazed at the
awesome talent as I used to be, instead of amazed at the no talent!
Technology is a tool not a crutch to handle weak rudiments. Learn
the basic rudiments of how to play and sing and write and then go
make some music. We'd all be a lot better off, and in my opinion,
this is the only way to get the music industry healthy again. It would
be better financially and artistically to sign and develop 40 artists
who had longevity and sold respectably over a period of time than
to put all the marbles into a few just to get that 20 million mega
hit! So if you're a record company and you're reading this, please..
there are so many unsigned unique talented artists ready to go. Sign
them, not clones who aren't ready and let these talents produce
their dreams and soon the top 100 will be alive and well again, and
maybe I'll turn my TV on and actually be able to watch the Grammies
again without throwing up!
PS: Please tell me 6 CDs you never get tired of listening to.
JN: In no particular order, and these are only some of the
CD's I never get tired of listening to and the ones that I thought
of at the moment:
Gonzalo Rubalcaba - Paseo
Return To Forever - No Mystery
Oscar Peterson - Put On A Happy Face
Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced
Vanilla Fudge - Near The Beginning
John Abercrombie - Timeless